Comments for Conversational Atheist http://conversationalatheist.com Atheists need to make more of an effort to be heard in their daily life. Mon, 19 Dec 2011 04:51:46 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v= Comment on Bible: Outrageous Resurrection Account -- Gospel of Matthew by Bob Mack http://conversationalatheist.com/christianity/matthew-resurrection-account/comment-page-1/#comment-33946 Bob Mack Mon, 19 Dec 2011 04:51:46 +0000 http://conversationalatheist.com/?page_id=21#comment-33946 The gospel accounts are not and were not intended to be exact replications of each other. If they were, there would be even more scutiny and doubt as to their authenticity. The fact that some reveal more details than others yet preserve the storyline make them harmonious. If you ask 4 people to describe a car accident they saw, you'd get 4 varying descriptions but the fact that the car accident happened isn't disputed, is it ! <div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('33946','Bob Mack'); return false;">Reply</a> | <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('33946','Bob Mack','The gospel accounts are not and were not intended to be exact replications of each other. If they were, there would be even more scutiny and doubt as to their authenticity. The fact that some reveal more details than others yet preserve the storyline make them harmonious. If you ask 4 people to describe a car accident they saw, you'd get 4 varying descriptions but the fact that the car accident happened isn't disputed, is it ! '); return false;">Quote</a></div> The gospel accounts are not and were not intended to be exact replications of each other. If they were, there would be even more scutiny and doubt as to their authenticity. The fact that some reveal more details than others yet preserve the storyline make them harmonious. If you ask 4 people to describe a car accident they saw, you'd get 4 varying descriptions but the fact that the car accident happened isn't disputed, is it !
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]]> Comment on Home by piet http://conversationalatheist.com/comment-page-1/#comment-33777 piet Thu, 15 Dec 2011 20:28:07 +0000 http://conversationalatheist.com/?page_id=438#comment-33777 To promote skepticism/critical thinking I wrote some questions for the Christian believer. Mefiante from South African Skeptics made a good translation. She is now working at the last part. The most sophisticated questions. Are you able to put the link to these questions at your blog. Thank you very much, Piet - Rotterdam - Netherlands. The original questions <a href="http://www.freethinker.nl/forum/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=8382" rel="nofollow">http://www.freethinker.nl/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3...</a> The translation <a href="http://www.freethinker.nl/forum/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=10033" rel="nofollow">http://www.freethinker.nl/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3...</a> The first one who did this, was Jonathan. This is a good example. <a href="http://www.limbicnutrition.com/blog/tough-questions-for-believers/" rel="nofollow">http://www.limbicnutrition.com/blog/tough-questio...</a> <div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('33777','piet'); return false;">Reply</a> | <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('33777','piet','To promote skepticism\/critical thinking I wrote some questions for the Christian believer. Mefiante from South African Skeptics made a good translation. She is now working at the last part. The most sophisticated questions. Are you able to put the link to these questions at your blog. \n \nThank you very much, \n \nPiet - Rotterdam - Netherlands. \n \nThe original questions \n <a href=\"http:\/\/www.freethinker.nl\/forum\/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=8382\" rel=\"nofollow\">http:\/\/www.freethinker.nl\/forum\/viewtopic.php?f=3...<\/a> \nThe translation <a href=\"http:\/\/www.freethinker.nl\/forum\/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=10033\" rel=\"nofollow\">http:\/\/www.freethinker.nl\/forum\/viewtopic.php?f=3...<\/a> \nThe first one who did this, was Jonathan. This is a good example. <a href=\"http:\/\/www.limbicnutrition.com\/blog\/tough-questions-for-believers\/\" rel=\"nofollow\">http:\/\/www.limbicnutrition.com\/blog\/tough-questio...<\/a> \n '); return false;">Quote</a></div> To promote skepticism/critical thinking I wrote some questions for the Christian believer. Mefiante from South African Skeptics made a good translation. She is now working at the last part. The most sophisticated questions. Are you able to put the link to these questions at your blog.

Thank you very much,

Piet - Rotterdam - Netherlands.

The original questions
http://www.freethinker.nl/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3...
The translation http://www.freethinker.nl/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3...
The first one who did this, was Jonathan. This is a good example. http://www.limbicnutrition.com/blog/tough-questio...

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]]> Comment on Bible: Outrageous Resurrection Account -- Gospel of Matthew by Frank Velasquez http://conversationalatheist.com/christianity/matthew-resurrection-account/comment-page-1/#comment-33507 Frank Velasquez Fri, 09 Dec 2011 22:16:37 +0000 http://conversationalatheist.com/?page_id=21#comment-33507 At least you are reading the Bible, good for you. Why would 11 of the apostles go to there death if they did not believe, they witnessed the resurrection. Many lives were changed that is how Rome became a Christian empire, until the Catholics started writing there own doctrines and changed everything. You don't need to respond, I accidently found your post, God bless <div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('33507','Frank Velasquez'); return false;">Reply</a> | <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('33507','Frank Velasquez','At least you are reading the Bible, good for you. Why would 11 of the apostles go to there death if they did not believe, they witnessed the resurrection. Many lives were changed that is how Rome became a Christian empire, until the Catholics started writing there own doctrines and changed everything. You don't need to respond, I accidently found your post, God bless '); return false;">Quote</a></div> At least you are reading the Bible, good for you. Why would 11 of the apostles go to there death if they did not believe, they witnessed the resurrection. Many lives were changed that is how Rome became a Christian empire, until the Catholics started writing there own doctrines and changed everything. You don't need to respond, I accidently found your post, God bless
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]]> Comment on Tough Questions: "Can God do evil?" by Tessa http://conversationalatheist.com/challenges/tough-questions-can-god-do-evil/comment-page-1/#comment-33023 Tessa Mon, 28 Nov 2011 22:58:21 +0000 http://conversationalatheist.com/?page_id=1042#comment-33023 i agree very much with that because i am a christian and if u meet me u can tell that god is not through forming me yet because people at church refer to me as a lump of clay being formed at my own pace and it takes as long as i make it take for god to finish forming me <div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('33023','Tessa'); return false;">Reply</a> | <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('33023','Tessa','i agree very much with that because i am a christian and if u meet me u can tell that god is not through forming me yet because people at church refer to me as a lump of clay being formed at my own pace and it takes as long as i make it take for god to finish forming me \n '); return false;">Quote</a></div> i agree very much with that because i am a christian and if u meet me u can tell that god is not through forming me yet because people at church refer to me as a lump of clay being formed at my own pace and it takes as long as i make it take for god to finish forming me

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]]> Comment on Bible: Outrageous Resurrection Account -- Gospel of Matthew by Matthew http://conversationalatheist.com/christianity/matthew-resurrection-account/comment-page-1/#comment-32768 Matthew Tue, 22 Nov 2011 17:19:42 +0000 http://conversationalatheist.com/?page_id=21#comment-32768 There are multiple problems with these arguments. The first, regarding the argument about resurrection before Jesus: there were plenty of cases of this before Christ's, including at least two people that he brought back from the dead himself. No one thinks that Jesus was the first one, and this doesn't do anything to undermine the miracle. For Christians, it is the link with Christ's body through the Eucharist that permits us to be raised in a transfigured body, just as Jesus was. This is the significance of the resurrection. The second argument is that the guards would hav converted. But this is not true. The pharisees had seen the miracles of Christ many times and had interpreted them as demonic powers, so the same interpretation could have been applied here, or perhaps the guards were not believed, etc. <div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('32768','Matthew'); return false;">Reply</a> | <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('32768','Matthew','There are multiple problems with these arguments. \n \nThe first, regarding the argument about resurrection before Jesus: there were plenty of cases of this before Christ's, including at least two people that he brought back from the dead himself. No one thinks that Jesus was the first one, and this doesn't do anything to undermine the miracle. For Christians, it is the link with Christ's body through the Eucharist that permits us to be raised in a transfigured body, just as Jesus was. This is the significance of the resurrection. \n \nThe second argument is that the guards would hav converted. But this is not true. The pharisees had seen the miracles of Christ many times and had interpreted them as demonic powers, so the same interpretation could have been applied here, or perhaps the guards were not believed, etc. '); return false;">Quote</a></div> There are multiple problems with these arguments.

The first, regarding the argument about resurrection before Jesus: there were plenty of cases of this before Christ's, including at least two people that he brought back from the dead himself. No one thinks that Jesus was the first one, and this doesn't do anything to undermine the miracle. For Christians, it is the link with Christ's body through the Eucharist that permits us to be raised in a transfigured body, just as Jesus was. This is the significance of the resurrection.

The second argument is that the guards would hav converted. But this is not true. The pharisees had seen the miracles of Christ many times and had interpreted them as demonic powers, so the same interpretation could have been applied here, or perhaps the guards were not believed, etc.

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]]> Comment on Bible: Ridiculous Ending to the Gospel of Mark by Rhyscurrency http://conversationalatheist.com/christianity/ridiculous-ending-to-the-gospel-of-mark/comment-page-1/#comment-32681 Rhyscurrency Sun, 20 Nov 2011 04:58:36 +0000 http://conversationalatheist.com/?page_id=112#comment-32681 Biblical argument that has a quick resolution that's advantageous for an atheist no matter which kind of defense a Christian wants to take. <div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('32681','Rhyscurrency'); return false;">Reply</a> | <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('32681','Rhyscurrency','Biblical argument that has a quick resolution that's advantageous for an atheist no matter which kind of defense a Christian wants to take. '); return false;">Quote</a></div> Biblical argument that has a quick resolution that's advantageous for an atheist no matter which kind of defense a Christian wants to take.
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]]> Comment on Why Engage in Religious Debates? by Notagod http://conversationalatheist.com/general-essays/why-engage-in-religious-debates/comment-page-1/#comment-32377 Notagod Sun, 13 Nov 2011 15:26:15 +0000 http://conversationalatheist.com/?page_id=14#comment-32377 Christians have constructed a safe place for rapists, robbers, murderers and liars (and other criminals) to operate within christian organizations. The christians are taught to be submissive and not question authority, that sets up an environment in which assertive christians can prey on the less assertive members of society. Christians are bad in many ways. However even though christians commit a lot of the criminal activity, it is true that christians aren't the only ones that commit crime but, there aren't many criminals besides christians that get a tax credit for committing crime. <div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('32377','Notagod'); return false;">Reply</a> | <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('32377','Notagod','Christians have constructed a safe place for rapists, robbers, murderers and liars (and other criminals) to operate within christian organizations. The christians are taught to be submissive and not question authority, that sets up an environment in which assertive christians can prey on the less assertive members of society. Christians are bad in many ways. \n \nHowever even though christians commit a lot of the criminal activity, it is true that christians aren't the only ones that commit crime but, there aren't many criminals besides christians that get a tax credit for committing crime. '); return false;">Quote</a></div> Christians have constructed a safe place for rapists, robbers, murderers and liars (and other criminals) to operate within christian organizations. The christians are taught to be submissive and not question authority, that sets up an environment in which assertive christians can prey on the less assertive members of society. Christians are bad in many ways.

However even though christians commit a lot of the criminal activity, it is true that christians aren't the only ones that commit crime but, there aren't many criminals besides christians that get a tax credit for committing crime.

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]]> Comment on Zeus vs. Jesus by jose http://conversationalatheist.com/references/zeus-vs-jesus/comment-page-1/#comment-32317 jose Sat, 12 Nov 2011 04:01:14 +0000 http://conversationalatheist.com/?page_id=1007#comment-32317 got anymore questions just ask me, either here or in facebook, my profile name is Jose Luis H, my picture is a black chevy car, and send me a friend request if you want to=D or just e-mail me to jose.hernandez2011@att.net <div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('32317','jose'); return false;">Reply</a> | <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('32317','jose','got anymore questions just ask me, either here or in facebook, my profile name is Jose Luis H, my picture is a black chevy car, and send me a friend request if you want to=D or just e-mail me to jose.hernandez2011@att.net \n '); return false;">Quote</a></div> got anymore questions just ask me, either here or in facebook, my profile name is Jose Luis H, my picture is a black chevy car, and send me a friend request if you want to=D or just e-mail me to jose.hernandez2011@att.net

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]]> Comment on Zeus vs. Jesus by jose http://conversationalatheist.com/references/zeus-vs-jesus/comment-page-1/#comment-32316 jose Sat, 12 Nov 2011 03:55:52 +0000 http://conversationalatheist.com/?page_id=1007#comment-32316 jesus is stands for J:jesus E:emortal S:superpowered U:undefeated S:suburban, and christ stands for C:christ H:huggest R:reviver I:incorporating S:smart T:thinker, and zeus just had thuderbolt to strike at, but jesus christ had powers, powers that can kill you so easly, he can say DIE and you die, he can say FALL and you'll fall, hecan say KILL YOURSELF and you will kill yourself.So as you can see jesus cant kill randomly a person but he can kill his enemies like zeus.So greek people's believe have no chance to hope for their zeus.JESUS CHRIST WILL WIN THE BATTLE <div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('32316','jose'); return false;">Reply</a> | <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('32316','jose','jesus is stands for J:jesus E:emortal S:superpowered U:undefeated S:suburban, and christ stands for C:christ H:huggest R:reviver I:incorporating S:smart T:thinker, and zeus just had thuderbolt to strike at, but jesus christ had powers, powers that can kill you so easly, he can say DIE and you die, he can say FALL and you'll fall, hecan say KILL YOURSELF and you will kill yourself.So as you can see jesus cant kill randomly a person but he can kill his enemies like zeus.So greek people's believe have no chance to hope for their zeus.JESUS CHRIST WILL WIN THE BATTLE '); return false;">Quote</a></div> jesus is stands for J:jesus E:emortal S:superpowered U:undefeated S:suburban, and christ stands for C:christ H:huggest R:reviver I:incorporating S:smart T:thinker, and zeus just had thuderbolt to strike at, but jesus christ had powers, powers that can kill you so easly, he can say DIE and you die, he can say FALL and you'll fall, hecan say KILL YOURSELF and you will kill yourself.So as you can see jesus cant kill randomly a person but he can kill his enemies like zeus.So greek people's believe have no chance to hope for their zeus.JESUS CHRIST WILL WIN THE BATTLE
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]]> Comment on Bible: Ridiculous Ending to the Gospel of Mark by Steve http://conversationalatheist.com/christianity/ridiculous-ending-to-the-gospel-of-mark/comment-page-1/#comment-32283 Steve Fri, 11 Nov 2011 14:38:50 +0000 http://conversationalatheist.com/?page_id=112#comment-32283 I have the answer to your question, if you choose to believe it. You cannot control yourself -- you deny what you cannot comprehend and your agenda based on your own atheistic principles are an enigma in and of itself. You want the free to choose for yourself, but in reality, you don't have any control? Ask yourself internally -- what is it that is pulling you to argue against the Christian belief? <div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('32283','Steve'); return false;">Reply</a> | <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('32283','Steve','I have the answer to your question, if you choose to believe it. You cannot control yourself -- you deny what you cannot comprehend and your agenda based on your own atheistic principles are an enigma in and of itself. You want the free to choose for yourself, but in reality, you don't have any control? Ask yourself internally -- what is it that is pulling you to argue against the Christian belief? '); return false;">Quote</a></div> I have the answer to your question, if you choose to believe it. You cannot control yourself -- you deny what you cannot comprehend and your agenda based on your own atheistic principles are an enigma in and of itself. You want the free to choose for yourself, but in reality, you don't have any control? Ask yourself internally -- what is it that is pulling you to argue against the Christian belief?
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