Comments on: 8 year old girl cannot legally divorce her 58 year old husband... http://conversationalatheist.com/2008/12/8-year-old-girl-cannot-legally-divorce-her-58-year-old-husband/ Atheists need to make more of an effort to be heard in their daily life. Wed, 07 Mar 2012 07:24:40 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v= By: Anonymous http://conversationalatheist.com/2008/12/8-year-old-girl-cannot-legally-divorce-her-58-year-old-husband/comment-page-1/#comment-11979 Anonymous Fri, 29 Oct 2010 10:40:26 +0000 http://conversationalatheist.com/?p=502#comment-11979 I am quite sure people do care when old men molest their 8 year old boys. <div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('11979','Anonymous'); return false;">Reply</a> | <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('11979','Anonymous','I am quite sure people do care when old men molest their 8 year old boys. '); return false;">Quote</a></div> I am quite sure people do care when old men molest their 8 year old boys.
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]]> By: Kron307 http://conversationalatheist.com/2008/12/8-year-old-girl-cannot-legally-divorce-her-58-year-old-husband/comment-page-1/#comment-422 Kron307 Sat, 04 Apr 2009 21:46:09 +0000 http://conversationalatheist.com/?p=502#comment-422 True all muslims would not support marrying an 8 year old, but they must be at odds with their beliefs as it is true that they claim Muhamed is the pinnacle of morality. What is worse than letting religion influence your personal beliefs and choices is when it influences, or guides, politics. This is a prime example, there should be no government on Earth, let alone one of our "allies" that allows and provides political haven for this type of thing. In a similar move, Afghanistan recently passed a law that married women can not deny sex with their husbands, gain child custody, or even leave the house without permission. These policies are entirely due to the religious/cultural background of the people, and should not be tolerated. And to compare marrying off an 8 year old to allowing children to wear jogging pants that say juicy on them is a little rediculous. Especially when this is a country where it is probably not even possible for her to divorce him, and his word is worth twice hers in the court of law. Also, you are comparing them to the USA, the most religious of the deveoloped nations. What I get out of the article is the dangers and horrendous consequences of allowing religion to guide politics. <div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('422','Kron307'); return false;">Reply</a> | <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('422','Kron307','True all muslims would not support marrying an 8 year old, but they must be at odds with their beliefs as it is true that they claim Muhamed is the pinnacle of morality. \n \nWhat is worse than letting religion influence your personal beliefs and choices is when it influences, or guides, politics. This is a prime example, there should be no government on Earth, let alone one of our "allies" that allows and provides political haven for this type of thing. In a similar move, Afghanistan recently passed a law that married women can not deny sex with their husbands, gain child custody, or even leave the house without permission. These policies are entirely due to the religious\/cultural background of the people, and should not be tolerated. \n \nAnd to compare marrying off an 8 year old to allowing children to wear jogging pants that say juicy on them is a little rediculous. Especially when this is a country where it is probably not even possible for her to divorce him, and his word is worth twice hers in the court of law. Also, you are comparing them to the USA, the most religious of the deveoloped nations. What I get out of the article is the dangers and horrendous consequences of allowing religion to guide politics. '); return false;">Quote</a></div> True all muslims would not support marrying an 8 year old, but they must be at odds with their beliefs as it is true that they claim Muhamed is the pinnacle of morality.

What is worse than letting religion influence your personal beliefs and choices is when it influences, or guides, politics. This is a prime example, there should be no government on Earth, let alone one of our "allies" that allows and provides political haven for this type of thing. In a similar move, Afghanistan recently passed a law that married women can not deny sex with their husbands, gain child custody, or even leave the house without permission. These policies are entirely due to the religious/cultural background of the people, and should not be tolerated.

And to compare marrying off an 8 year old to allowing children to wear jogging pants that say juicy on them is a little rediculous. Especially when this is a country where it is probably not even possible for her to divorce him, and his word is worth twice hers in the court of law. Also, you are comparing them to the USA, the most religious of the deveoloped nations. What I get out of the article is the dangers and horrendous consequences of allowing religion to guide politics.

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]]> By: Elmy Biker http://conversationalatheist.com/2008/12/8-year-old-girl-cannot-legally-divorce-her-58-year-old-husband/comment-page-1/#comment-195 Elmy Biker Mon, 02 Feb 2009 14:29:52 +0000 http://conversationalatheist.com/?p=502#comment-195 The Saudi society doesn't recognise women as human. They have almost no rights what so ever, and are subjugated. I doubt their happy about that even if they don't speak out. It's disgusting that their religious beliefs cloud their governing bodies. <div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('195','Elmy Biker'); return false;">Reply</a> | <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('195','Elmy Biker','The Saudi society doesn't recognise women as human. They have almost no rights what so ever, and are subjugated. I doubt their happy about that even if they don't speak out. It's disgusting that their religious beliefs cloud their governing bodies. '); return false;">Quote</a></div> The Saudi society doesn't recognise women as human. They have almost no rights what so ever, and are subjugated. I doubt their happy about that even if they don't speak out. It's disgusting that their religious beliefs cloud their governing bodies.
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]]> By: Joe http://conversationalatheist.com/2008/12/8-year-old-girl-cannot-legally-divorce-her-58-year-old-husband/comment-page-1/#comment-150 Joe Sat, 24 Jan 2009 04:58:43 +0000 http://conversationalatheist.com/?p=502#comment-150 I agree with you to some extent; atheists too often tend to be just as arrogant and childish and intolerant as any religious person. And it's also true that very few of the people here know much about Islam. But we should try to note some of the more twisted parts of religion, and we should also take note of how they affect the world. You say "the government that controls her life needs to be changed". But this government is based entirely on Islam, and this article is a clear illustration of the horrendous problems caused by that. A government based entirely on the Bible would be just as terrible. Of course I don't think that all Muslims blindly follow the examples set in the Koran. But some clearly do; particularly some in places of power. And that causes serious problems. The point of this article is not to accuse all Muslims of being pedophiles. It is to illustrate that, like the bible, the Koran supports some morally atrocious behavior, and although most Muslims realize this, some use it to their advantage. It is all an issue of interpretation. <div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('150','Joe'); return false;">Reply</a> | <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('150','Joe','I agree with you to some extent; atheists too often tend to be just as arrogant and childish and intolerant as any religious person. And it's also true that very few of the people here know much about Islam. \nBut we should try to note some of the more twisted parts of religion, and we should also take note of how they affect the world. \nYou say "the government that controls her life needs to be changed". But this government is based entirely on Islam, and this article is a clear illustration of the horrendous problems caused by that. A government based entirely on the Bible would be just as terrible. \nOf course I don't think that all Muslims blindly follow the examples set in the Koran. But some clearly do; particularly some in places of power. And that causes serious problems. \nThe point of this article is not to accuse all Muslims of being pedophiles. \nIt is to illustrate that, like the bible, the Koran supports some morally atrocious behavior, and although most Muslims realize this, some use it to their advantage. It is all an issue of interpretation. '); return false;">Quote</a></div> I agree with you to some extent; atheists too often tend to be just as arrogant and childish and intolerant as any religious person. And it's also true that very few of the people here know much about Islam.
But we should try to note some of the more twisted parts of religion, and we should also take note of how they affect the world.
You say "the government that controls her life needs to be changed". But this government is based entirely on Islam, and this article is a clear illustration of the horrendous problems caused by that. A government based entirely on the Bible would be just as terrible.
Of course I don't think that all Muslims blindly follow the examples set in the Koran. But some clearly do; particularly some in places of power. And that causes serious problems.
The point of this article is not to accuse all Muslims of being pedophiles.
It is to illustrate that, like the bible, the Koran supports some morally atrocious behavior, and although most Muslims realize this, some use it to their advantage. It is all an issue of interpretation.
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]]> By: Faranya http://conversationalatheist.com/2008/12/8-year-old-girl-cannot-legally-divorce-her-58-year-old-husband/comment-page-1/#comment-143 Faranya Thu, 08 Jan 2009 02:31:58 +0000 http://conversationalatheist.com/?p=502#comment-143 Good. We need more bear-related murders to deal with these punk-ass teenagers. Seriously, they ruined my generation's image completely. <div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('143','Faranya'); return false;">Reply</a> | <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('143','Faranya','Good. We need more bear-related murders to deal with these punk-ass teenagers. Seriously, they ruined my generation's image completely. '); return false;">Quote</a></div> Good. We need more bear-related murders to deal with these punk-ass teenagers. Seriously, they ruined my generation's image completely.
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]]> By: James Tracy http://conversationalatheist.com/2008/12/8-year-old-girl-cannot-legally-divorce-her-58-year-old-husband/comment-page-1/#comment-140 James Tracy Tue, 30 Dec 2008 23:40:38 +0000 http://conversationalatheist.com/?p=502#comment-140 <a href='#comment-139' rel="nofollow">@Jenn</a> - I fail to see where any amount of truth has been stretched in this post. Don't attack the religion? This is a part of the religion. As an atheist, you should also be deeply concerned about stories such as these and the effect that passages such as that might have on today's society. By the way, the Bible does not support sodomy. It explicitly forbids a man to lie with another man.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('140','James Tracy'); return false;">Reply</a> | <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('140','James Tracy','<a href=\'#comment-139\' rel=\"nofollow\">@Jenn<\/a> - I fail to see where any amount of truth has been stretched in this post. Don\'t attack the religion? This is a part of the religion. As an atheist, you should also be deeply concerned about stories such as these and the effect that passages such as that might have on today\'s society.\r\n\r\nBy the way, the Bible does not support sodomy. It explicitly forbids a man to lie with another man.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> @Jenn - I fail to see where any amount of truth has been stretched in this post. Don't attack the religion? This is a part of the religion. As an atheist, you should also be deeply concerned about stories such as these and the effect that passages such as that might have on today's society.

By the way, the Bible does not support sodomy. It explicitly forbids a man to lie with another man.

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]]> By: Jenn http://conversationalatheist.com/2008/12/8-year-old-girl-cannot-legally-divorce-her-58-year-old-husband/comment-page-1/#comment-139 Jenn Tue, 30 Dec 2008 06:37:23 +0000 http://conversationalatheist.com/?p=502#comment-139 To those of you who read the quote from the Koran and became enraged... You've just become a victim of spin. It's a neat technique people use to get you to agree with them. They give you a little bit of fact, stretch the truth a whole bit, turn it into a tasty tidbit... and before you know it, you're swallowing crap and liking it. How many of you know a Muslim? Personally? As in... Oh, I don't know... You've actually sat down and talked to one? You know, outside of an interrogation room at the local airport? Taxi cabs don't count either. Sure, the Koran supports some pretty indecent things... But it was written in a time when it wasn't indecent. The Bible supports sodomy, and who do you hear whining about that? It's a terrible thing that that girl is forced to marry someone so much older than her. The government that controls her life needs to be changed. But don't attack the religion. Just because I'm an atheist, doesn't mean I need to be a hate-ridden, biased idiot. If you can't name the five pillars of Islam... I challenge you to look them up before you post a comment again. True Muslims follow these pillars. They're not evil. Quite the contrary, actually.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('139','Jenn'); return false;">Reply</a> | <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('139','Jenn','To those of you who read the quote from the Koran and became enraged... \r\n\r\nYou\'ve just become a victim of spin. It\'s a neat technique people use to get you to agree with them. They give you a little bit of fact, stretch the truth a whole bit, turn it into a tasty tidbit... and before you know it, you\'re swallowing crap and liking it.\r\n\r\nHow many of you know a Muslim? Personally? As in... Oh, I don\'t know... You\'ve actually sat down and talked to one? You know, outside of an interrogation room at the local airport? Taxi cabs don\'t count either.\r\n\r\nSure, the Koran supports some pretty indecent things... But it was written in a time when it wasn\'t indecent. The Bible supports sodomy, and who do you hear whining about that?\r\n\r\nIt\'s a terrible thing that that girl is forced to marry someone so much older than her. The government that controls her life needs to be changed. But don\'t attack the religion. Just because I\'m an atheist, doesn\'t mean I need to be a hate-ridden, biased idiot.\r\n\r\nIf you can\'t name the five pillars of Islam... I challenge you to look them up before you post a comment again. True Muslims follow these pillars. \r\n\r\nThey\'re not evil. Quite the contrary, actually.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> To those of you who read the quote from the Koran and became enraged...

You've just become a victim of spin. It's a neat technique people use to get you to agree with them. They give you a little bit of fact, stretch the truth a whole bit, turn it into a tasty tidbit... and before you know it, you're swallowing crap and liking it.

How many of you know a Muslim? Personally? As in... Oh, I don't know... You've actually sat down and talked to one? You know, outside of an interrogation room at the local airport? Taxi cabs don't count either.

Sure, the Koran supports some pretty indecent things... But it was written in a time when it wasn't indecent. The Bible supports sodomy, and who do you hear whining about that?

It's a terrible thing that that girl is forced to marry someone so much older than her. The government that controls her life needs to be changed. But don't attack the religion. Just because I'm an atheist, doesn't mean I need to be a hate-ridden, biased idiot.

If you can't name the five pillars of Islam... I challenge you to look them up before you post a comment again. True Muslims follow these pillars.

They're not evil. Quite the contrary, actually.

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]]> By: lauren http://conversationalatheist.com/2008/12/8-year-old-girl-cannot-legally-divorce-her-58-year-old-husband/comment-page-1/#comment-135 lauren Fri, 26 Dec 2008 07:26:17 +0000 http://conversationalatheist.com/?p=502#comment-135 <a href='#comment-134' rel="nofollow">@Jim</a> - I don't think quoting the Koran really has any merit here. I don't think it's a stretch of the imagination to assume that marrying a very young woman wasn't an uncommon practice due to life expectancy and what have you. If you've ever bothered to read the Koran (or any other religious text for that matter), while there are a lot of objectionable things such as savage murders and father raping ect, the core messages can be interpreted in a secular fashion that isn't at all harmful. I'm sure you know plenty of believers who don't do anything different than you except believe in God. Why do we always have to blame misdoings on religion or lack there of?<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('135','lauren'); return false;">Reply</a> | <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('135','lauren','<a href=\'#comment-134\' rel=\"nofollow\">@Jim<\/a> - \r\n\r\nI don\'t think quoting the Koran really has any merit here. I don\'t think it\'s a stretch of the imagination to assume that marrying a very young woman wasn\'t an uncommon practice due to life expectancy and what have you. If you\'ve ever bothered to read the Koran (or any other religious text for that matter), while there are a lot of objectionable things such as savage murders and father raping ect, the core messages can be interpreted in a secular fashion that isn\'t at all harmful. I\'m sure you know plenty of believers who don\'t do anything different than you except believe in God. Why do we always have to blame misdoings on religion or lack there of?'); return false;">Quote</a></div> @Jim -

I don't think quoting the Koran really has any merit here. I don't think it's a stretch of the imagination to assume that marrying a very young woman wasn't an uncommon practice due to life expectancy and what have you. If you've ever bothered to read the Koran (or any other religious text for that matter), while there are a lot of objectionable things such as savage murders and father raping ect, the core messages can be interpreted in a secular fashion that isn't at all harmful. I'm sure you know plenty of believers who don't do anything different than you except believe in God. Why do we always have to blame misdoings on religion or lack there of?

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]]> By: Jim http://conversationalatheist.com/2008/12/8-year-old-girl-cannot-legally-divorce-her-58-year-old-husband/comment-page-1/#comment-134 Jim Fri, 26 Dec 2008 03:08:09 +0000 http://conversationalatheist.com/?p=502#comment-134 Guess the Catholic church isn't the only pedophile cult around. Just add this to the long list of reasons why Muslims are a bunch of sick, evil fucks.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('134','Jim'); return false;">Reply</a> | <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('134','Jim','Guess the Catholic church isn\'t the only pedophile cult around. Just add this to the long list of reasons why Muslims are a bunch of sick, evil fucks.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> Guess the Catholic church isn't the only pedophile cult around. Just add this to the long list of reasons why Muslims are a bunch of sick, evil fucks.
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]]> By: kyle http://conversationalatheist.com/2008/12/8-year-old-girl-cannot-legally-divorce-her-58-year-old-husband/comment-page-1/#comment-133 kyle Thu, 25 Dec 2008 23:40:27 +0000 http://conversationalatheist.com/?p=502#comment-133 John Lennon said it best when he said, "Imagine no religion"<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('133','kyle'); return false;">Reply</a> | <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('133','kyle','John Lennon said it best when he said, \"Imagine no religion\"'); return false;">Quote</a></div> John Lennon said it best when he said, "Imagine no religion"
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